Steve Ignorant

Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

Went to the show tonight... it's 8AM and we just came back.... It was awesome even if the sound could have been better... Steve ignorant played all of crass best songs.... $30 each fucking tickets is a rip off, and the venue charger $20 for the parking, maybe thats why he didnt play "the greatest working class rip off".....

Anyway, the show was at a fucking bourgeois venue, here are some pictures :
http://www.olympiademontreal.com/fr/

keeping in mind that crass used to play in squats this is the extreme opposite of the venues they used to play in

Oh yeah, and there was hundreds of ppl buying merch at their table, the dude who was giving change had a pile of money he had AT LEAST 4000$ only in his hands....

so it cost us 30$ each tickets, plus 45$ gas and 20$ parking.... 125$ total to see $teve ignorant for 2 persons...

yes thats right, crass is dead, its just another cheap product for the customer's head...

 

Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

ahahahah wtf ?? we are not in the same punk scene i think...

steve ignorant shows: 30$ with taxes, a big tourney with many locations, and MANY peoples assisting gigs (over 2000 in montreal)
oi polloi: small tour, very few locations, not even 200 people assisted, 12$ per tickets with taxes

explain me why oi polloi can afford it, but steve ignorant can't ?

2000 people assisting a gig in montreal at 30$ per ticket is 60,000$ calculate it however the fuck you want, he makes a lot of money

not even calculating merch profits...

+1

 

Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

Steve Ignorant has been making a lot of advertisment for his last gig, look at this:

Capacity of the venue is 2,000 and Steve Ignorant keeps saying it's going to be sold out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_Shepherds_Bush_Empire

Tickets are being sold for 21.15 pouds (thats nearly $35 USD) !!!! And according to comments on Steve Ignorant's facebook page, some people have receipt of the tickets being bought at £31.15
https://www.southern.net/eu-shop/index. ... x&cPath=11

That's $70,000 of profit for him... And of course i'm not counting the thousands of dollars of profit on merch (and we all know that steve ignorant is selling a LOT of merch)

Now just calculate how many gigs he played this year and do the maths...

Worst of all, this hypocritical asshole is bragging in an interview with ''The Quietus'' that each time he does a gig he give the money to some organisations... But WHERE THE HELL is all this money going ?? Besides the lifejackers he bought for some lifeboat crew, i never heard of anything... The last time he gave money he kept bragging about it everywhere, so if he really DONATED the profits from his gigs we would hear about it...


Funny:

I thought Steve Ignorant was the only sellout dumbass but i guess i was wrong:

Penny made a big drama when Steve started his Crass karaoke, wrote a big text to talk shit against it and then said ''well do it, but i'll never be part of it''.... and now people are talking about a crass reformation:
http://thequietus.com/articles/07367-cr ... -interview

 

Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

Oh look, it's the fucking fanboy who can't think by himself on the prowl again.

Can you read or are you too retarded ? The venues fees and other shit is EASILY PAID by all the merch they will sell. Anyway stupid fanboys like you will always find a reason to excuse your heroes for selling out.

Come on, if he's not making any profit then how the fuck can you explain that smaller bands can do similar shows for less ? Why it's so different for Crass ? And how were they able to do shows for 5% of the price 30 years ago ?

Yes i went to the show, so fucking what ? I also went to Dropkick Murphys show and will go again next time they come, does that means i can't say i don't support the fact they are making a lot of money out of their music ?? Well actually to be honest i feel less guilty to see dropkick murphys live because at least they are not PRETENDING TO BE SOMETHING THEY'RE NOT.

Oh wow awesome so i guess now he got carte blanche and can profit out of the scene as much as he wants now that he did a good action.

This is strictly a business-men attitude like Microsoft that will invest in humanitarian aid so people will think they're cool and let them keep making millions of dollars of profits.... Or like when the sweatshop compagnies are blamed for exploitation they will just throw away a couple of thousands of dollars to build schools in africa and then everyone will be like "wow they're so cool, let them make money so they can keep helping us"... This is fucking demagogy.

Hey dumbass, learn to read, he did say he bought lifejackets in an interview

http://thequietus.com/articles/07394-st ... g-lifeboat

Looks like a fucking public relations campaign to me, look at this ridiculous picture:


5 life jackets. Big fucking deal.

Once again you are a fucking retard, "lifeboat crew" is exactly the words that were used in the interview, and since i didn't know the name i called it "SOME lifeboat crew". Get down your high horse and stop worshipping your heroes, you are acting like a fucking ayatollah islamist angry because i insulted his Prophet.

Facts are here, with proof of the ticket prices, venue capacity, etc.... You must be really blind to think he never made big profit out of this tourney.

You are a fucking hypocrite, first accusating me of making assumptions on the venue cost and then you are the one who makes assumptions on the lifejackets price... Hilarious.


On another note, Penny and Eve joined Steve for his last gig. Another two persons who betrayed their ideas. First Crass all said they would never get into this re-formation rockstar bullshit, Steve decided to betray his ideals, Penny strongly fought against it, but now he's turning back his vest and joining the big circus. Maybe he wanted some money too, because he couldn't sell enough autobiography books ?

Fucking fanboy posers like you who can't question themselves and question their heroes makes me want to burn all crass patches and tshirts i have.

 

Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

Let's just compare with other artists playing at the SAME venue with some random artists found on google (i'm not even looking for cheap tickets, just taking the first shows i find at the same venue)

LMFAO is probably one of the world's most popular band currently, and they are still charging LESS than Steve Ignorant for a show at the SAME venue, with obviously more expensive equippement
http://www.livenation.co.uk/event/258986/lmfao-tickets
http://www.ents24.com/web/event/Cherryt ... 94332.html
ONLY 14.50 POUNDS !!!!!!

On livenation's page you can also see a lot more tickets for sale at the same venue and they are almost ALL less expensive than Steve Ignorant's show

Another show at Shepherd's Bush Empire : Reel big fish, a fucking big commercial ska-punk band:
http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user/?query= ... nyear=2011
£16.00 per ticket - still less than crass

Liars - £12.50 per ticket
http://www.gigwise.com/news/54307/Liars ... mpire-Show

St Vincent - £14.50 per ticket
http://www.atpfestival.com/newsview/1111181000.php

The drums - £15.00 per ticket
http://www.ents24.com/web/event/The-Dru ... 06055.html

Ben howard - £14.00 per ticket
http://www.ents24.com/web/event/Ben-How ... 83836.html

Rizzle Kicks - £12.50 per ticket
http://www.ents24.com/web/event/Rizzle- ... 92781.html

Even the tickets for Crass reunion in 2007, at THE SAME VENUE but with more (and better) bands, were sold for LESS:
http://eventful.com/events/feeding-5000 ... 05152884-4


So now how can you explain that those CAPITALIST ARTISTS can charge LESS for a show with probably more costy equipement AT THE SAME VENUE ??? Usually we would expect a capitalist artist to charge WAY MORE than an artist pretending to be anti-capitalist and who is supposed to make NO or very little profit out of his music ?

YOU are the liar, trying to pretend it's normal that an anti-capitalist artist should charge ALMOST TWICE THE PRICE of a ticket of a show by one of the WORLD'S MOST COMMERCIAL BAND who are in only for the money


The only thing they had to pay for is the venue cost, which is EASILY covered by all the merch they are selling (have you been to the show? have you seen how much money they make selling their crass t-shirts printed on made-in-haiti t-shirts that probably cost them $2 and they're selling it for $25 ???). Everything else is money in their pockets. Other bands probably accepted to play for free, who wouldn't play for free with a big band like that ? Equipement ? They're all in other bands, they already have their equippement !! Security ? It's supplied by the venue. Bullshit arguments.

 

Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

Yep, saw it on facebook 2 minutes after he posted it, i'm glad this has been resolved because it was becomming worse and worse, crass fans were now fighting conflict fans and vice versa...

But oh well, in my head Steve Ignorant is still an idiot sellout and will always be. I'm definatly not a conflict fanboy, but i have more respect for Conflict than Steve Ignorant's karaoke circus.

 

Re: Crass playing in California and charging $23?

We were discussing the high prices of Steve Ignorant's gigs and the betrayal of crass ideas on Conflict's Facebook. And even if Colin is in reconcilliation with Steve Ignorant, here is his answer in our discussion:

Glad to see that conflict is still loyal to their ideas.


Another thing, i just learnt that Steve Ignorant's donation to the lifeboat crew came from money he collected at the gig. There was someone asking for donations. So he didn't donate money from his own pockets, but instead he just collected donations from people present at the gig. Which is a good thing indeed. BUT he's still keeping his profits for himself.