STAND FOR THE FLAG THAY SAY

Re: U.S.A. Pledge of Allegiance

they want us to pledge to terrorism?
to the "war on terrorism"?

or..meow?

 

Re: U.S.A. Pledge of Allegiance

Dude...we're not supposed to talk about this. We're just supposed to work and buy shit otherwise the terrorists win. They'll come get us because they hate our freedom and want to turn us all into *gasp* MUSLIMS!

 

No, Anxiety is right.
If people think ur a stupid punk-ass who wants "anarchy and chaos!" their not gunna listen to what you have to say.

I always say, actions speak louder than words!

Don't talk about it! Be about it!! haha its funny but true! we want peace and cooperation and a brother/sisterhood of man, right? true freedom? for everyone?

No one's gonna listen to stupid kids who destroy things for all the wrong reasons

and thats the truth.

 

bah, i still feel like i haven't really discussed this with anyone

 

It's just obvious what the pledge of allegiance is. Look at the name: "pledge of allegiance". There's also a reason it's pounded into kids heads in school. Obvious christian-nationalist brainwashing tool: Your country is all powerful, just and sanctioned by God. It's your duty to lay down your life in the interest of your nation and government. I mean, we can discuss it and all, it's not like it's an invalid subject or anything. But like I said--it's just obvious why all nations adopt an equivalent to the pledge of allegiance.

 

Most young kids hate saying the pledge of allegiance because they hate being controlled.

I remember when I was in Kindergarden, I was dicking off during the pledge and my teacher made me stand back up and say it all over agian. ( was very hyperactive)


Kids know what's best,

 

There's a calvin and hobbes strip where calvin is forced to recite the pledge and says something like "I pledge a legion to queen frag and her mighty state of hysteria..." before the teacher yanks him to the principals office. Cracks me up everytime i read it

 

Ok, I don't want to come off as a grammar nazi or the king of English...but the non-word "THAY" has seriously been pissing me off ever since i saw it.

 

well this thread was started by a 15 year old...

 

Really not trying to sound like a dick, but it makes me cringe. Caps too, like we're being yelled at. I guess it's not really important.


I don't see what being 15 has to do with it though. You learn to spell "they" in first grade. I'll probably not mention it anymore. Probably.

 

I agree. It makes your point seem pretty redundant when you seem to lack the most basic faculties to properly express yourself. For someone with English as secondary language it would be forgiveable but that doesn't seem to be the case. And block capitals are definitely excessively used on the net. Let it be known - Caps hates caps.

On topic, this doesn't effect me because, fortunately, the UK doesn't insist on such nonsense. However, for years my uncle has worked in the US and he was sent some horrible ubder-patriotic e-mails. One included a cartoon of this teacher addressing a class with a wheelchair-bound soldier next to her and she says something like 'you don't have to stand for the pledge but here's someone who can't so that you could make that choice.' What sort of bullshit is that?!

 

Dude, my mom would send me emails like that until i blocked her.

 

I don't know if in the uk you go to say a football match they play the national anthem and expect everyone to stand and take off their hats, but sporting events here in the states have big time patriotic interludes that are so ridiculous considering the greedy nature of athletes... (not too mention at baseball games, the majority of player are from other countries and aren't citizens...)

 

stand for this flag.....if anything

 

At a graduation over the summer they had everyone stand for the anthem, but I didn't. Some older guy in nam vet attire tried to get me to stand up so i just told him I was Canadian.

 

Lmao Jack, way to think on your feet.

I remember in first grade there was a girl who didn't stand the the pledge because she was a Jehovah's witness. But our teacher was really cool about it, and told us that it was her right and not to say anything about it.

 

Wow, I'm really glad we don't have to stand for the pledge of allegiance in Canada. From kindergarden until grade 12, we had to stand for the national anthem though, which always pissed me off. In my last year of high school, I'd always show up just a few minutes late on purpose so I wouldn't have to.
Up until the mid 80's, I think (don't quote me on the date), students in Canadian public schools had to stand for the national anthem, and then say the Lords Prayer, which is bullshit.

 

This discusts me, I don't if its a law in America, but it masewell be a law over here considering all the shit you get if you don't love your country.

 

That sort of thing does happen, especially for bigger matches but I never go to them because they also cost a shitload of money. However, I've watched World Cup football (soccer!) games in pubs and seen people stand for the anthem then. These people immediately earn my distrust.

Yeah, probably wouldn't actually stand for it but certainly this above all others. The only flag worth not burning.

A much bigger issue for me is that, as I work at a catholic school, I have to attend religious rituals attached to the school. I do sometimes get odd looks when I don't pray (I don't even know in which order you touch your head and shoulder with that 'father, son and holy ghost' business...) or refuse to partake in mass. Still, the school has been reasonably tolerant of my atheism thus far.

 

In Australia, as long as you beat up your quota of ten ethnics by the end of the year, you're deemed to have done "enough in the national interest" and retired from standing for national songs and speeches for the next year. You get a neat little badge to wear on your hat, too.