Guns and anarchist society

People make up the state. The police are people. They suffer from the same flaws that your syndicate will suffer. Jealousy, fear, anger, and all the other human emotions will still be in play.

"The system isn't made up of bricks, it's mostly made of people."

 

What method are they using to make then unconcious?
Don't mean to be annoying, just want to know

 

Actually they use elctro shock or captive bolt to stun the animal and make it easier for both animal and the person slaughtering. This only immobilizes the animal for a few moments. At this point the carotid artery is severed resulting in rapid loss of consciousness and death.

I've known several people that have worked in slaughter houses and have taken a tour of one myself.

 

I had a two week internship at a slaughterhouse in '97 so i've seen my share, there they used guns. I grew up on a farm and saw slaughtering of different kinds there as well, from chopping heads off of hens, shooting sick cows, etc. I've not seen the electrical shock thing in real life but i've read about it and seen documentaries of slaughterhouses where it's been used, and it doesn't seem to me like it's all that nice. I've also talked to butchers that have used it but then went back to using a gun because it sometimes doesn't work as effectively as it's supposed to and the animals are in pain for a long time before they get unconcious. From what i know this method is primarily used on smaller animals up to the size of pigs and on very big pigs it rarely is enough. Also if you ask me, i don't think there should be anything made to make it easier for the humans to kill animals but that's a different issue.

 

Now who's naive? History has proven time and time again, once you give power it is never given back. From the Senate making Caesar emperor to the patriot act, once that power is given away the only way to reclaim it is revolution.

By people I mean humans. Humans are flawed by our very nature. While the majority will strive to better their world there will always be those that act in contrast to that. Even those put into power to protect others. We must always be ready to combat this, with force if necessary.

 

I don't understand any french but i did understand something about it only being watchable from Canada
Would imagine the headsmashing isn't really for bulls who are built to take quite the smashings to their heads Altough i do get some images of someone smashing a bull on the head with an iron frying pan... lol. Can't imagine it being very good to eat the meat if injections are used but i can however imagine it happening.

 

Why you use the word 'honest'? If you keep animal in cage then kill it, who exactly do you think you lying to? I never owned a gun, never felt I needed to. There many ways to kill, but pretty easy with a gun I imagine, which is why the situation in USA is so fucked up, cos I think sometimes in past, like if I angry and drunk or something, pretty sure if there a gun laying around, I could have shot someone. Dunno for sure, I mean knives laying around and I never stabbed anyone, so who knows. Doubt I feel like I need a gun in anarchist commune or whatever neither, though being realistic there always risk of heavily armed bad guys, guess I think more in terms of a community militia rather then individual weapon possession. Whatever, you guys with the honest hunting fetish, decent bow will do the job, I mean, if you really do think there's some kind of spiritual 'truth' in fucking with the local ecosystem.

 

That sounds strange but i believe you, if that works there would be no need for guns for that either. I just hope it's also less stressful and scary for the animals then shooting them. Of cause to me it would be even better if there was no killing of animals at all but that's not what this topic is about so i'm not going there now.

 

What the fuck it matter, they dead whatever. There is no 'humane' way to kill, that's just invention of people with guilt problem.

 

I never said there are humane ways to kill and i am all against killing but this topic is about guns and anarchist society and since not all anarchists are vegans or vegetarians i think this is areasonable thing to discuss.

 

I guess, though if they gonna kill on my patch they gonna have to get past me first. Maybe I should get a gun, init.

 

Yeah i'm not gonna say "go ahead and kill all you want" either, though i think in some communes slaughtering for food will most likely occur. Maybe not where you or i live but we can't be everywhere.

 

guns are kinda cool and they make people feel strong but i dont see to many reasons on owning them or at least more than one im not really a fan of them

 

So what will you do to the person who owns guns in your community?

 

Washington DC had a ban on firearms for 30 years and yet during that time also had some of the highest rates of murder and gun violence. How could this be possible if guns were banned? Here's the answer. Someone who will use a gun to kill doesn't give a fuck if possessing a gun is illegal. This is the major flaw in the argument to ban firearms. It assumes that everyone will behave and this is not, and most likely will never be, the case.

By "you" I mean you as in the opposite side of the debate, not necessarily you Ungov. I cannot speak for anyone else but I assume that they are using "you" in the same context.