Homophobia in the Punk Scene (Total Wreck)

I'm a gay, and I'm letting you know I got beef.
We're everywhere, you know. You speak of us like we wouldn't be on this website.
I've already posted that I think it's offensive, and that it pisses me off. So has Queerpunk.


ANYWAY, just a side note here:
Everyone's taking this really personally and saying that they have a right to listen to what they want and shit.
THIS ISN'T A POST TELLING YOU YOU CAN'T LISTEN TO THIS BAND.
It's an informative post to let people know that these people have said these things and if you don't like it, don't support them in any way.
If you don't care, you don't have to.
It may have been worded in a "don't do this" kind of way, but that's all it was saying. Don't support it if you don't agree with it.
This has turned in to a massive debate on the actual words used, and freedom of speech and stuff.
I agree: I support freedom of speech. HOWEVER, if I don't agree with the things you say, I won't support you. But I'll still say you have a right to say it. In the same way that I don't support the Salvation Army because they've been terrible to queer employees, and donate money to anti-gay marriage groups and shit. They can do whatever the fuck they want, but I'm not gonna give them money if I don't like it. I don't know if that makes any sense, but all I'm saying is that I won't support a group that does, or says something I am offended by, or don't like.

 

people who are saying this is no big deal and apetty arguement are being lame, if this wasnt a big deal to some of us, there wouldn't be 7 pages arguing about it.

 

^ i agree with you (DIRECTED AT THE GAY DUDE WHO POSTED). but some of these fools don't understand what free speech is and think anyone who preaches hate should be silenced. get a fucking grip man. so they said something you don't like, BOO HOO. you don't have to listen to them or watch them. and i remember somebody said "well what if somebody was up in your face callin u gay, would u like it?" Uh no i wouldn't but i would do something about it, like leave, or fight them, rather then posting online about how my feelings got hurt because someone said some words i didn't like. that isnt fucking punk. thats fucking GAY you faggots.

 

Because obviously being gay isn't punk, you guys.

WHAT THE FUCK?!
Is it really neccessary to use that kind of hateful language, though? You're not being ironic. We've had a seven page arguement about whether that's offensive or not, and whether you agree or not, that was a dick move.
Dick. move.

 

it doesn't mean homosexual brother. at this point it can be considered just an insult, like plantsfeel said. and idk why i have to explain it. its 2010. we change words meanings by how we use them, watch in the dictionary in 10 years. even in leftover crack's song "gay rude boys" they say "so get down with the fag rock steady beat". it offends you but MOST gay people it wont offend. if you dont like it don't read my posts. i mean if I SERIOUSLY, LEGITIMATELY offended you i dont know what to say. you must not watch tv because gay and fag is just slang for dick moves and shit like that.


sorry i offended you but i didn't mean to and i was just using a shock tactic. i dont care if you all think im homophobic because i know im not.

 

Don't care at this point if your homophobic or not, now I just think your a bigmouthed piece of shit apologist who understands absolutely nothing about Anarchy and doesn't care about anything but his own opinion.....

"you must not watch tv because gay and fag is just slang for dick moves and shit like that."

And a fuckin moron too......

 

i meant to say go outside. i suppose its not as common in the adult world but in high school its the main insult used. a faggot is just someone you dislike.

and im a libertarian who believes in free speech and no censorship so yeah. didn't think an anarchy site would look down on those values but the more ya know

 

Wa. Wa.

 

wa wa.. thats all you got for ur first post...

 

that is absolute bullshit logic. If everyone says nigger it must be ok too right? If everyone says heeb or kyke, it must be ok then right? especially since high school kids are saying it. Your feeble excuse at justification is pathetic at this point. You've been told why users here don't appreciate it yet you still use it, and are now calling people faggots. Are you trying to get banned from this site? Because you are doing a good job motivating this mod of that. (not for your justification or belief that you should be able to use the word, but when you start using it in a knowingly offensive way after you have been asked countless times not too.)

 

Smear The Fear by Limp Wrist

Little boys games putting up a front
Just an excuse to lie on eachother
What a stunt
Locker room peepshow for soaped
up boys
Just throw in the towel
& make some noise

Together we car smear the F.E.A.R
Let´s can this shit fear
What´s up with all the phobias & FEARS
Don´t overlook the guy next to you
He might really care
No need for a game to touch a
mans ass
Just call your buddy over &
make the pass

Together we can smear THE FEAR
Let´s can this shit FEAR

Punk ass queers by Limp Wrist

yeah, we're the freaks in town
creepy horny queens with our
rhinestone crowns
won't wed for the church or state
we're punk ass queers normalcy is
what we hate

military gays what a bore
don't guinea pig me for your fucked up wars
log cabin queens, stuffy conservative shit
in the spirit of stonewall queens
we'll put and end to it

T.V. shows abercrombie gays galore
showing to the straight world
we ain't weird no more
fuck all this pity me shit
bring on the drag kings with
their big fake dicks
i'll hang with hustlers, leather boys, and punks
i'm not down with this normal world junk

 

You stupid motherfucking poser idiot, go fuck yourself and get the fuck out of here!

(If you found that a bit offensive you're just silly and overly sensitive, cos everyone knows what it means is "You seem like a very nice guy, i think you should treat yourself to a nice piece of apple pie with vanilla icecream on the side at a lovely little café.")

 

Oh shit it does now?!

Hey Anom, you stupid motherfucking poser idiot, go fuck yourself and get the fuck out of here! Hopefully you will enjoy the dessert and I heard the little cafe is supposed to be really good and somewhat cheap. =)

 

You have right to freedom of thought, and freedom of speech, but you DO NOT have that right to harm other people. If while exorcising the former you cause the latter, your right is lost. It's you that don't fucking understand the right to freedom of speech. It's as fucking stupid as saying that cos I got a right to food and shelter, I therefore got a right to murder and steal to get it.

 

Ok, if I could just add my voice on this one, yeah, ban the fucking morons. People like this part of any anarchist community I part of, they be out, and if that meant I got kick the shit out of them, drag them, and pollute the earth with their sad excuse for blood, so be it. No, I aint got to be gay, female or black to respect someone for what they are. This aint prejudice, they a fucking stain on humanity, a disease that should be wiped out, by whatever method it takes.

 

Yeah i don't agree with your philosophy on this one. I don't see how being violent towards a homophobe will make you any better then they are, or change the minds of homophobes, if anything it will probably reinforce their beliefs.

 

Well, sure I angry; violence when all else fails. Minimum force required. If it can be talked out, fine, but it has to be wiped out.

 

Yeah dude what the hell the problem is that its gone its original meaning that it has become a common phrase is the issue. I do like some bands that use homophobic slurs but when they use them it is as a statement about the word itself not to insult something. When a band gets on stage and says to tons of people that bigotry is find because the word has "changed" they are simply being more ignorant.

When you've had a knife pulled on you a block from your house while being called a fag maybe you would feel different.

 

you are all p.c. faggots. grow the fuck up. total wreck rips and are not homophobes. i have multiple gay friends and they all think this is retarded and hilarious that you have made a huge deal about this. you dudes should probably get a life instead of sucking gay dudes dicks cus they are taking care of that themselves. also most gay people ive met are total badasses.