Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Lunadimae, May 3, 2010.
lol im a straight guy who would have fun with kathy griffin... as long as she didnt talk
And then there's the women that shouldn't open their mouth, unless it's to give a blowjob
Would love to fuck in the ruins of a recently destroyed police complex...but I have always had this urge to hook up with a whiny middle-class Trotskyite uni student at a beat or on campus just to prove that Anarcho-Queer boys fuck harder and better...
homosexuality doesn't fucking matter, don't you morons realize that we are all doomed to die in the elective cesspools floating around in outer space by the government> but more specifically, i would say that people will always make up excuses for why they are bigoted in some way. for former boss at work was very homophobic/anti-gay and constantly made little subtle gestures and jokes to me in order to make me cringe and on one occasion split one of my teeth. fuck all of those people. people make up excuses for being homophobic by simply saying "it's what jesus fucking christ would want" or something. people make up excuses for justifying whaling simply because it is "cultural" or "traditional". SUCH BULLSHIT. it's the same thing.
I don't care much for the term homosexual. As i just see it as a term to make people sound "Separated or different" from the majority of the human race. Love is love regardless of Sex,race or creed and should not be seen as anything out of the ordinary. There is no reason for homophobia and those that are offended by "homosexuals" really need to think about WHY it offends them. There is no justifiable answer.
Well technically homosexuals are different but different isn't bad. When talking about which sex a species (I am bringing other species into this because some can actually be homosexual) is attracted to, then yes homosexuals and heterosexuals differ. People sometimes do use it to outcast them but that is the same with so many other different words, people will always put words in different contexts intended for harm. It is just a word to describe animals who are deeply attracted to the same sex.
I haven't read most of the thread so far, so I apologies of If I'm repeating someone else. To me, one of the basic human needs and wants are love and companionship. As an anarchist, I believe that one should be able to pursue that need how they see fit, while at the same time, respecting the needs and wants of others, and as long as both parties consent to the relationship.
Yea I wouldn't mind doing Henry Rollins either
Yeah, I always ask those people to find the verse where Jesus says anything about sex, never mind gays. They can't find it, 'cause there isn't one. And you'd think with all the fucking going on in the Roman Empire those days, if he had a problem with gay sex specifically, he'd have at least have mentioned it at some point. So yeah. Fuck 'em. I'm bi, and I just happen to be with someone that's not my gender, so people tend to assume I'm straight and all the homophobia comes out. It's great watching them backpedal when I challenge their worldview. It feels pretty good when people stop and go "....You have a point. I gotta think about that." 'Course, sometimes sadly, I get into it with gays that try to tell me I don't fucking exist, or I'm just confused or something. Dude, my libido ALWAYS knows what it wants (and it wants that girl and that guy and that trans dude over there...). Sometimes I think I WANT THEM ALL. Like goddamn POKEMON. But yeah, mostly it comes down to why shouldn't grown, consenting adults not have right to same life, liberty and pursuit of happiness as anyone else? There's no excuse for anyone to be treated like a second class citizen, or less than human, and anyone that argues for arbitrary enslavement and abuse of anyone else based on sexual orientation, gender, race, etc, is a fucking asshole and a bigot, plain and simple.
the bible says that homosexuality is an "abomination before god" but a couple of lines before that it says that wearing woolen clothes with cotton clothes is also an "abomination before god" which are both ridiculous and arbitrary and most obviously the rantings of a human being as their is no "word of god"
That's the truth--but what's also true is that if someone is a christian, they're not actually supposed to be following leviticus anymore, so it's a relatively easy thing to challenge an evangelical fundie christian on. Jesus also says that if they were following the law, they had no use for his salvation. (I started out in a evangelist cult, so I have huge swaths of the bible memorized, I just don't bother quoting verses unless people here want them to use when talking to evangelists. So if there's anything specific that needs to be refuted, just hit me up, I'll share it.) I study christianity due to the religious right; having been a part of it, I think I'm that much more aware of how much evangelicals and their fascist worldview are a huge fucking problem. I still keep my oxford study bible on my shelf because these people will not listen to anything outside of it, and I think that if I can break the brainwashing, other people can too, with some help. But mostly I think it's important to know thy enemy, and also to point out where they're talking out of their fucking asses even according TO THEIR OWN CREED. So I call them out. Sometimes, simply being antireligious isn't enough, 'cause they can just write you off and say they don't have to listen to you, because you're "prosecuting them." Fucking evangelicals and their fucking martyr complex. Half of those white, male, cisgendered, middle-classers wouldn't know actual prosecution if it slapped 'em upside the head with a pair of handcuffs.
simply put, the bible has no impact on me besides my hate for attitudes which originate from it that impede what i believe to be common sense, rationale and fairness.
christians will ALWAYS take bible verses that support their ignorance and hatered, from either old or new testament, as long as they can twist it to suit them.
Wow, how amazingly open-minded of you. Do you have problems with people who are openly women? Or perhaps those who are openly disabled? They probably just want attention too, right?
Ahh yes, don't you love the pick and choose system they have going on? *holds up a bible* The bible speaks the truth! *subtly kicks the ripped out pages they don't agree with under the carpet*
That quote from Leviticus isn't Jesus.
for the op. as long as ive been able to remember, ive had sexual/physical/emotional attraction for members of both genders and because ive been blessed to meet and build ideas with older lgbtq members they all remember the same feelings usually starting in early adolesence so there is NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING GAY/BISEXUAL or even being born male and discovering that this is not your chosen identity (being trans) i am attractred to both male and female persuasion but i am currently happily married to a trans woman, ( NEWS FLASH MOST MEN ATTRACTED TO TRANS WOMEN ARE... STRAIGHT)/ i just happen to be pansexual (apparently the oddity. *rolls eyes*) so tell THEM so fuck what if its wrong. who the fuck are they to talk about one anothers choices..
The real question is why is heterosexuality OK?