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Chomsky : Being anarchist is more lucrative than working

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by ungovernable, Jun 3, 2010.

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  1. ungovernable

    ungovernableAutonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    Three days ago Noam Chomsky visited France. He's a fucking celebrity, the media declared that nobody was ever welcomed like him except the dalai-lama, everyone came to see him, he was everywhere on the news, blah blah blah

    So let's get straight to the facts.

    The entrance price was 18 fucking euros. 1600 tickets were sold and god knows how many people were left at entrance...

    That's a total of 30,000 fucking euros.... And he is currently on an European tour doing similar conferences everywhere...

    Most of the anarchists always bitch about the bands that make money with their songs, I never understood why nobody criticizes Chomsky for making tons of money out of his books and his conferences.... Seriously... 30,000 fucking euros in one day, that's more than the average citizen earns in two years... Kind of ironic from someone who denounces the class system and the difference between the rich and the poor. And I'm not even talking about the screening of "Chomsky & company" for 5euros the day before the conference. We are not at 38,000 euros of profits.

    And I'm not even talking how Noam Chomsky is a media slut, he gave interviews to the biggest t.v. stations, the conference was organized by the journal "Le monde diplomatique" (not shitty but far from being good, and sold at 5euros each).... No you are not dreaming, the same person that criticizes the media system in his book is acting like a media slut

    Noam Chomsky is now 81 years old, is he starting to lose his ideas from sight ? What the fuck happened to the Noam Chomsky that was refusing to pay taxes to avoid supporting the government ?

    I didn't know being an anarchist could get you so much money.

    What do you think about that ?

    I'm pretty sure most of you would yell "FAKE ANARCHIST ! SELLOUT ! BURN THEM !" if you saw an anarcho-punk band make nearly 40,000 euros for a gig in less than 1 hour.... But what about Chomsky ? No one has the courage to say anything because he's so famous and so anarchist you can't criticize him...
     
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    chomsky isn't even an anarchist, he says he's anarchist friendly. he says that nazis and fascists deserve freedom of speech. fuck him, he's a fool.
     
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  3. punkmar77

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    Bullshit I've been criticizing his ass for years for different reasons, mostly for being a kiss ass to Chavez of Venezuela, 'cuz according to the all-knowing Chomsky, Chavez can do no wrong. Doesn't matter that Chavez favors a Leninist/Stalinist type of Dictatorship and has killed many anarchists in his country, that's o.k. because comrade Chavez is anti-USA so he can do whatever he pleases. Chomsky had great ideas in the past but now he is cashing in his chips and betraying his past philosophy which absolutely negates it. It also amazes me how many people he has bamboozled, they ignore these things because he has become a cult of personality.
     
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  4. ungovernable

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    Yep definatly, a cult of personality...!!

    Chomsky is also a supporter of elections if i remember correctly

    But AFAIK Chavez is not a dictator, he's just an idiot and a manipulator :p But i wouldnt be surprised if venezuela turns into dictatorship..
     
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  5. punkmar77

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    Watching a Doc called 'Raul the Terrible' about Raul Castelles a great Argentine revolutionary, that's somebody worthy of emulation....I'm surprised he hasn't been assassinated.
     
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  6. JesusCrust

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    I didn't know being an anarchism
    being an anarchism
    o_O
     
    JesusCrust, Jun 3, 2010
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  7. punkmar77

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    He speaks French not English....... :/
     
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  8. ungovernable

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    actually it was just a typing mistake, i'm not THAT bad in english :p damn firefox corrector only correct french grammar !!

    but eh JesusCrust, that's all you got to answer??
     
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    Hahaha thanks for the link, funny text. Worse than i thought.
     
    ungovernable, Jun 3, 2010
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  11. JesusCrust

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    No, Chomsky was cool, he's losing all validity now. I also agree with him being some sort of icon for people getting into "Libertarian Socialism," but because they're new, many people look past his shattered sense of ideals because he has gotten so popular. Just another way to use the phrase "too big to fail" I guess. As for his tour thing, that's bullshit.
     
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  12. QueerPunk

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    Fuck him seriously he is an establishment supporting academic and they are all the fucking same he goes around discouraging people from rebelling because 'oh it's all so difficult...'


    Read Steven Pinker...he is worth a look and he is a better linguist in my opinion because he writes in a way that is accessible to all, not just uni students who could afford a tertiary education.
     
    QueerPunk, Jun 4, 2010
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    Come on man, only exclusive theoreticians who overuse academic non-language can truly be revo. You, as existing outside of our moar learned university intelligentsia, would no doubt fail to comprehend this. All the better for our movement.
     
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    while i was reading it i was trying to make an excuse to defend him. but meh not rea;;y. only thing i could think of was he had to charge the money for like booking the venue, and you said he was on tour? hotels,food,planes,hookers it adds up...but he most likley made a nice bit inhis pocket....and the news thing well ya thats just hipocritical
     
    rude-boy, Jun 4, 2010
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  15. QueerPunk

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    Well what I do know is that he has been recently barred from entering Israel...so did Norman Finkelstein.


    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sak6dRHi0YY&feature=fvst[/video]
     
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    His popularity comes from the average person reading or listening to some small amount of his work and then believing that they are radical intellectuals. He kinda caters to liberals who think they're radicals but who also like things like absolute freedom of speech. He's radical enough to grab their attention but familiar and safe enough for them (i.e supporting elections, again absolute freedom of speech) If you ever walk around Cambridge you can find so many kids with MIT and Harvard sweatshirts going and on and on about how much they love Chomsky and how they changed their lives.
    He reminds me of PETA (i know it sounds weird). PETA is popular and digestible enough for most people and by supporting it people feel like they are really they're really well informed. Celebrities indorse PETAand some probably rant about how much they love Chomsky too. Major point being people believe that they are informed and intellectual by referring to a popular source. I don't know if that makes sense to anyone else (it probably just ended up sounding confusing).
     
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    No, it makes total sense.
    chomsky - radicalism for non-radicals.
     
    butcher, Jun 4, 2010
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    maybe if the mainstream gets a taste of what reaky anarchism is they will become addicted and the revolution will happen
     
    corpratedeath, Jun 4, 2010
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    I'm still not getting the lack of support for freedom of speech here, i would think it to fit the anarchist ideology fairly well. But anyway Noam Chomsky is still human like the rest of us, he has some respectable ideas though in recent times they seem to have developed a bit of a drop off in agreeability, but his opinion is his opinion, though it is pretty fucked up hes profiting from it.
     
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  20. ungovernable

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    Yep heard of thew story of chomsky banned from israel..


    lol and you think his expenses can cost 300,00 euros ?? seriously....

    We do believe in freedom of speech, you just don't understand it's not possible in time of war, even for the peoples who strongly believe in it.

    I won't get back to this subject again, just read what has been said previously.
     
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