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Good Oi! and Street Punk bands?

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by PUSFILLEDTRAMPOLINEATTACK, Feb 10, 2015.

  1. aint ashamed

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    Thanks for the encouragement! Would also like some input from you
    and the Brethren, about this whole Crass , sell out, hypocrisy, and even a
    direct attack against us, thing, DAMN!? I believe it's all true, that's not
    really the issue. What IS AT ISSUE with me personally, is, where do I draw
    my own line, without being a traitor, or hypocrite. This is tough stuff, when
    you consider Crass was once the bedrock of our movement's foundation.
    Looking for conscience advice here. Thanks Much! aint ashamed
     
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    I've briefly commented on this situation more than once, but I'll be happy to reiterate: I think what half of Crass did was bullshit, and certain members showed their true colors with their actions. It saddened me deeply,but in some ways I wasn't totally surprised. In the past, I had been in contact with people on other forums about Crass, particularly people who knew them personally, and had personal dealings with them, and they told me that a lot of them were hypocrites who didn't practice what they preached, particularly Steve Ignorant.

    Now, where do YOU draw the line? That's something you have to figure out for yourself. As for me, personally, I think they had some great music, and had some important things to say in their lyrics. I don't think that listening to their music, owning any of their material, or even buying new records/C.D.s to replace the old ones you wore out necessarily makes one a "Traitor" or a hypocrite, but that's just my opinion. If you worry about such things, then you might as well concern yourself about weather or not listening to The Clash or owning any of their material makes you a hypocrite or traitor. Or maybe Bob Dylan. It's really up to you to decide what's right in my humble opinion. I'm not getting rid of any of my Crass vinyl or C.D.s, but it will always be in the back of my head the actions they took against this site, and the efforts of certain people who spent countless hours uploading their music here just to have them get harassed by their attorneys, and even take down a good portion of their music, especially bands that were on Crass/Corpus Christi who not only gave permission to post their music, but even donated it for the sole purpose of getting the music out to more people. Did Crass even consult these bands, or did Crass, in their infinite wisdom, and lawyers on their side decide that since it was on their label, they had every legal right to just come in and delete EVERYTHING?


    Their actions do not take away the importance of their messages conveyed in their lyrics.

    Let your own conscience be your guide.
     
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    Thanks friend, that really helped! aint ashamed
     
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    No problem. Anytime.
     
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    Don't mean to belabor, but I feel the need to praise you for your counseling
    skills. I had most of the basic info, but I couldn't quite resolve it. That's where
    you came through like a champion. You somehow knew how to personalize it, and
    bring it home. The sum of It's parts, have come together! Thank You Again!
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    He is good isn't he ! A valued contributor to the site in my opinion.
     
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    Yes he is! And so are you my friend! Thank you for all the awesome music!
    Will comment on some of those later. aint ashamed
     
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    Well, thank you. I truly appreciate that. I don't really think I'm any kind of counselor of sorts. I only go by my own personal experience, and share it with anybody who would bother to listen. Again you are quite welcome, and here's wishing you the best for the holiday season, no matter what holiday you celebrate, even if that holiday is your own personal Aint Ashamed day. (But that's a holiday that should be celebrated every day of the year, especially on your birthday)
     
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    Oh, you're going to make me blush!^_^
     
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    Feel free. It's not as if we can see you doing it^o^
     
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    X0 I think I'll just get drunk, and go to bed at this point. :zzz: I'll blush when I wake up tomorrow.:mask:
     
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    Sounds like a plan. Have a big glass of water before you crash, it helps not getting dehydrated by the booze in your sleep. The Kristina Olsen lp I'm getting my wife for xmas has almost finished downloading. Then I'm hitting the hay as well.
     
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    Sure thing. Mr. Prince Among Men! [gender inclusive]
     
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    Happy Holidays To You! All the Best! Most deserving!
     
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    But that just minimizes the hangover. Where's the fun in THAT? (Good advice though, but I'm way ahead of ya)
     
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    Good thing you added the disclaimer. I like to think I'm a Prince Charming among women. (I know I'm not, but I like to think I am.:lmao:)
     
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    Right back at ya, Amigo.:)
     
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    Guilty of heaping on the accolades, all in the best spirit of things!
     
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