Artificial Organ Regrowth

Thanks for posting this.
This is incredible, but, I'm very sure this will be either exploited and/or abused by the "powers that be". :/
Are the bible-thumpers protesting and boycotting this yet? one would think they are too busy questioning their beliefs (if not already).

 

I'm not sure if I'd want to live forever, even if I was capable and in great health the whole time. The funny thing is, unlike most other atheists, I'm afraid of death. I get it's inevitable, but that doesn't mean I still can't be nervous.

 

I want this to happen. A society so advanced that organ failure and disease is no longer a problem. This would be great, and i hope that it's in my lifetime.

But i wouldn't want to live forever unless i didn't age. It would be awesome to be at your prime for an eternity (in my opinion)

If I am correct, they do this through Stem Cells, which is how organs are formed. Bible-thumpers are already on top of this because the only way to get stem cells without the risk of cancer is from human Embryos (and if i remember right, they grab these cells when an egg is fertilized). So yeah, they're already against it because apparently 'You're killing babies' even though they grab these cells from a petree dish.

Society is pushed back once because of religion...

 

AGREED

 

Problem is, these organs will cost a bundle, and only the very rich will be able to afford them and survive.

 

Implanting ears directly to the heads of the soliders wounded in Iraq and Afganistan ( )

I find this whole "project" very useful, but I must disagree with testing on animals ( just look at the mouse !), sorry but that kinda unaccaptable. :/

 

Yeah though that's because of this shit system not the scientific study itself...

That's what sketches me out about it too...you'd think scientists would have a better way of doing their business by now

 

this kinda is what scares me I think this is not something we should be happy about there already is an overpopulation of mankind and I do think this would be something only accessable to the really rich becouse I thinkit wouldbe really expensive so yeah on the one hand it's cool and all but on the other I'd say naynay

 

I think it makes much more sense for atheists to be scared of death than the faithful. They get an after-life of some fashion. I've always thought of it as like a machine being turned off, never to be turned on again. Imagine it - life, then nothing. That's pretty fucking scary. It's not the unknown, it's the very bleak known. I only recently got over my extreme fear of death because I was told that I had a genuine risk of dying when I was diagnosed with cancer. I am now only a little bit anxious about it.

They do. But progress is always slow and/because it lacks funding and support.

 

Isn't this fairly old news? I remember reading about this (well, the mouse with the ear on its back and the woman with the scaffold throat transplant) years ago.

Anyway, I think that it's good in one way but bad in another - good for people needing emergency transplants where no donor is available (particularly for an organ such as the liver which, if not 'replaced', will cause certain death) but bad due to the animal testing involved and the favouring of the rich as we all know this is going to be really expensive!

The problem is, disease is always going to be around; let's say they manage to cure and completely eradicate every disease known, then what? New diseases will most definitely transpire (especially with the continued and excessive use of GMOs) and then it will start all over again. It is practically impossible to rid the world of all known diseases - do you know how many diseases scientists have managed to completely wipe out? One - yes, just one, and it took well over 100 years to eradicate. Plus I think dying is just a fact of life and people need to accept that, scientists need to look at more important things to be doing than making us all immortal or whatever. Also I am totally against animal experimentation; there are hundreds of ways in which animals can be replaced and it's been proven countless times how inaccurate and unreliable animal tests are, so why does it continue?

 

Right, there is no way to escape death finally - bacteria and viruses have a high rate/tendency for mutation and our medical opportunities are still very limited - old scourges of humanity are on the rise again - tbc for example has adapted to a broad spectrum of antibiotica, becoming resistant against therapy and almost a death sentence again, especially if one can afford expensive treatment.
Most of this transplantation/organ regrowth stuff is only propaganda of a small number of specialists competeting for financial support or some weirdos like this russian surgeon trying to transplant heads... bit obsessed he went to jail after he published his animal experiments and pronounced human testing.
They still aren't able to stop the natural aging process of human body cells, let alone brain cells, even using fetal "unmarked" cells proved to be a failure...
AND:
few days ago, some mohawk told me about that happy pogo-grounds we're all bound for - when the music's over...

 

Fuck man, that sucks. I'm sorry. I've had to truly face my own mortality once, but since then I've basically come to full recovery (minus perment scaring on my lungs). Even though technically we're all just waiting to die, I can't imagine living knowing you have something like cancer.

 

I'd just like to state, one of my fantasies is becoming an oracle. So if I could live forever, I would. I don't want to die, and I really value my life, and i hope i get to live for a very long while to collect as much knowledge as possible to be an oracle of society. And for my Sci-fi reference, i hope this doesn't become the SG-1 Life-forever thing.

I wouldn't mind being a Cylon what so ever, just as long as that I'm not thrown out of the Airlock

If this goes through and is available soon, then (if i remember right) Stem cells could cure blood cancers (But i'm sorry man about that, sounds painful and horrid)

I agree with that, but In My opinion, some things have to be done to advance society, regardless if it's correct or not. They should find an alternative to using animals, but if it has to be done, sometimes it has to be done.

 

This movie comes to mind

http://www.novamov.com/video/4c3b665fc651d

It's called Repo Men and is a dystopian kind of story
It's about a repo man who takes back artificial organs that people can't pay off
It's pretty fucked up but we all know you're into that kind of thing

 

They said it's harmless, so why don't they test on themselves...

 

at least in germany it's because the law:
to get a pharmaceutical/cosmetic preparation or a special treatment on the market, you have to do a full documentation of a number of animal and humane tests to prove it's not harmful - for humans...

and the universities still refuse the diploma for students who refuse the dissection course for biology - i refused it in hungary and got my diplom nevertheless, but i can't become a elementary teacher here, because i newer dissected a frog...

 

This is exactly what I've found.

Anyway, thanks very much for the well-wishing - appreciate it. I got out of hospital for (hopefully) the last time after what was an almost 7 month stint. Progress is very good. I've got a friend who's mum is very strong on her animal rights and also a bit of a conspiracy nut. Though I don't agree with a lot of what she says I can often see her view and I do agree that the current methods of treating cancer are fairly counter-intuitive - fuck the body up more to fuck up the cancer. Still, if this is as far as we've got then you have to take it. I'm pretty sure that there will be some big progress soon, probably on the lines of what Chaos UK was saying. The important thing is that animal testing has been dominated by ineffectiveness, unwarranted cruelty and bad science. It should be stopped.