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Can science and religion coexist peacefully?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by kowalskil, Dec 2, 2010.

  1. kowalskil

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  2. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    Of course they can, not all religion is fundamentalist bullshit...
     
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    They can, but I don't think religion will let science reach it's full potential
     
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    This song has always summed up that question for me:

    the science of myth by screeching weasel

    If you've ever question beliefs that you hold you're not alone
    But you oughtta realize that every myth is a metaphor
    in the case of Christianity
    and Judaism there exist the belief
    that spiritual matters are enslaved to history
    The Buddhists believe that the functional aspects override the myth
    while other religions use the literal core to build foundations with
    See half the world sees the myth as fact
    while it's seen as a lie by the other half and
    the simple truth is that it's none of that and
    somehow no matter what the world keeps turning
    Somehow we get by without ever learning
    somehow no matter what the world keeps turning
    Science and religion
    are not mutually exclusive
    In fact for better understanding
    we take the facts of science and apply them
    And if both factors keep evolving
    then we continue getting information
    but closing off possibilities
    makes it hard to see the bigger picture
    Consider the case of the women
    whose faith helped her make it through
    when she was raped and cut up left for dead
    in a trunk her beliefs held true
    It doesn't matter if it's real or not cause
    some things are better left without a doubt and
    if it works then it gets the job done
    Somehow no matter what the world keeps turning
     
  6. snookams

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    hot damn...i always like screeching weasel's stuff....so true. religion and sciene are beliefs and, like all beliefs, they don't mean shit unless they're yours. the line is crossed when people start forcing beliefs onto each other.

    haha side note/ off topic, my old high school civics teacher gave me a bunch of his old screeching weasel 7"s...can't remember off the top of my head which album it was but instead of side A or B it had side anus and side blow job...still can't believe i got that record from a school teacher lol.
     
  7. JesusCrust

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    The problem I see is that as long as people continue to believe there is an after life, they won't take live on Earth seriously.
     
  8. dwtcos

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    god hates fags.
     
  9. kowalskil

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    On the contrary; hell is not a nice place to be.
     
  10. KAAOS-82

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    Worship Satan
     
  11. Jameson

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    This
    and this
     
  12. butcher

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    and fags hate god ;)

    seconded
     
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    LOL priceless :)
     
  14. SurgeryXdisaster

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    On the contrary

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fWw3El7VHc[/video]
     
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    also im reminded of an iron maiden quote, "hell ain't a bad place, hell is from here to eternity..." sorry i hate youtibe links.
     
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    lolsies
     
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  18. butcher

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    'God' guards bank with no locks

     
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    hangin with the goodie goodies, loungin in paradise, fuck that shit i wanna toat guns and shoot dice
     
  20. DrunkSquid

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    The force at which things have attraction to one another and in the example of our earth, things fall down when you drop them, that force itself is the law of gravitation. Gravity has another part, the theory aspect. The actual *cause* of that force, the force which is responsible for gravitation, is ONLY a theory.
    Now here is evolution. Microevolution and macroevolution are not distinguishable things to the vast, vast majority of the scientific community.
    Microevolution is fact. It should realistically be a law, if it is not already associated with scientific law. The theory of evolution is a scientific theory, not just a wild "pulled out of a bunch of wealthy creative Romans asses" theory, like a theistic religious approach would be.
    However, evolution being fact does not necessarily totally discredit any religion, theistic or Hindu or generic pagan, anything. It does for sure completely discredit certain sections of religious "scripture", as if saying that word, "scripture", has any more significance other than making something sound more valid, when in fact the majority of those religious texts are merely the psychotic ramblings of wealthy people living around the Mediterranean 1500-1400 years ago. Not only that but they have lost much significance to many people who can actually read recently, considering the age of the texts and the fact that life today compared to 2000+ years ago is like night and day. This is a given too. And some ideas *suggested* from some religious texts, but not always necessarily implied, may be extremely harmful to the fair well being of individuals today. Therefore I think it is horse shit.
    The reason why Jesus Christ and Allah and the Bible and such are so popular nowadays is not because of any religious text anyway. If that were true literacy rates for the worlds population would have needed to be much, much, much higher than they were for the vast majority of our history since about 2k years ago. This is especially true for much of Europe under the "holy Roman empire" and its laws regarding bible possession.
    No, the reason why theism in specific is so popular nowadays is because governments and parents push it, it is utilized as a tool much in the same fashion I believe, as a soldier, or squad of soldiers is used as a murder weapon by the government. False morality, is the simplest way for me to put why I dislike theism. It projects constant false morality in the face of what is good and just and actually moral to todays standards, which is what we call being REALISTIC.
    Note that I said theism in specific, not religion entirely. Theism being Christianity and Islam mainly, but Judaism somewhat as well, as in the reverse-apologetics of zionism.
    Also, people are morons for thinking that atheists/agnostics = fascist/racist. People are also stupid for thinking that atheism=lack of morals. That makes no sense whatsoever if you just *think*, FFS. Atheism means a lack of something, not of morals that's for sure. In fact I imagine the beliefs in the big poof would be less moral in most ways because they/you can wildly and randomly explain horrible and inhumane things by making up excuses. How is not agreeing with the theistic belief systems a lack of morality or goodness? I don't understand, please explain to me further then how atheism = lack of morality, when in reality it is merely a lack of belief in a judgemental, childish, egocentric prison-warden god.
     
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