money and bartering

Anarchism is not "DIY or die" this is a stupid cliché. Yes, DIY is very important, recycling stuff and all, but anarchism doesn't means the abolishment of the commerce. There's nothing wrong with buying stuff or selling stuff, the problem is how this stuff is produced and who produces/sells it. Thinking everyone could live without buying anything is stupid, this is never going to happen, and even if it happenned it would be the greatest regression of all times.

 

No. If coca-cola wasn't a shitty multinational exploiting poor countries, killing syndicalists in colombia and destroying worker's rights everywhere (plus many other arguments), there would be nothing wrong with buying coca-cola (although maybe we should make it an healthier product without asparthame and all the other shit in it).

Why do you think that anarchists support independent restaurents but say to boycott McDonalds, KFC and Burger King ? The problem is not with the restaurents, but how the restaurents are managed. It's the same thing with any product.

Yes buying products is supporting money RIGHT NOW. In an anarchist society it would be different. But yes, today we are forced to buy products with money but we should not feel guilty for supporting capitalism. We are the victims of capitalism, not guilty. Anyway in my opinion yes we must boycott some companies, but it is totally impossible to live without capitalism unless you live on a desert island and thats not where you are going to change things. To think that you can and must live without capitalism and without buying anything is a weird 13-years-oldish misconseption of anarchism.
Seriously, i live in appartment alone and i have to use money to survive everyday. Pay electricity bills, pay internet bills, pay food, pay my appartment proprietary, etc... I even have to work to get money and to survive, big fucking deal. Guess i am a big fucking capitalist.

Anyway if you are writting to me right now i guess you also support capitalism, unless you are a homeless person living on the streets, eating from garbages, and talking to me with a laptop through an hacked wifi connexion...

 

No, i disagree. Even if there would be less peoples "stealing from the government", the taxes would remain the same. This is a shitty liberal argument against people on welfare and such.

Secondly, yes the government does makes a lot of money by itself. Ever heard of nationalised companies ? Weapons commerce ? Taxes ? Oil ? And worst of all : banks owned by the government. Because we all know (i hope) that banks makes money out of nothing.

Money is centralized because money allows it. It allows the banks to make money out of nothing and it allows the bourgeoisie to keep a lot of money and accumulate a wealth. Yes money is the source of all problems.

And anyway like i said, you can't abolish capitalism without abolishing money, or else peoples would still be able to acquire a wealth, it would be unequal wit others and low-scale capitalism would quickly come back...

 

Yes, that's why abolishing money without abolishing the central power would be useless.

We are not talking about a process that would be accomplished under 24 hours..

Without money, the ruling class would be left with NOTHING... The next step would be the collectivisation.