money and bartering

Re: money and barduring

i used to rely on social security as a means of survival (rent, food, bills, education etc etc) but then one day it dawned on me that you can't fight the system and rely on it at the same time. its extremely hypocritical.

 

Re: money and barduring

i think the money system is stupid but from a different reason. wouldn't it make more scence to instead of takeing bits of paper and giving them to people, to give people what they need?

 

There's investigating going on into a resource-based economy. The Zeitgeist people have another project which is based off of several principles similar to anarchism, maybe you should look into that
I just know of it's existence, I haven't actually looked into it.

 

so what would replace the money system? its not bartering is it?

 

like Kropotkin said sharing goods among the people.for example I have a corn,wheat fields and my neighbor have a vegetable fields,other have a cattle farm so we re gonna share it among us.i give them corn,wheat,they give me meat,vegetables,and it s applicable to all sorts of industry.there you go we have just abolished capitalism

 

money is the most corrupt invention known to man...

and americans have gone so far as to put "IN GOD WE TRUST" on their bills.

They trust in making their money over anything. I knew a guy who got killed because he owed someone a quarter. thats 25 cents US.

Money is one of the biggest tools for the government to control their people.

"get a job to make MONEY. buy a car to get to work easier with MONEY. get a house to pay rent with MONEY. fill your stomache with flavored MONEY."

Also, if America is trillions of dollars in debt, how the fuck can you afford to pay people to work?

That's the real question...

 

so...we're all gonna have to become farmers???

 

you should grow your own veggies anyway...

 

true...

 

Re: money and barduring

yeah, but its still bullshit. if the system is so fucked and we want to get rid of it, but the part were they pay you money to do shit is sweet, why bother fighting it if it keeps you alive? like there are a lot of people in fucked up countries who are getting way more exploited than any of us westerners, they would kill for their system to give them a free check every 2 weeks.

well anyway, that's why i got off social security, i couldn't justify it to myself any longer.

 

D.I.Y. or DIE!!!
We(my family)have vegetable field,organic food made by our hands,so we don t depend on supermarkets or corporations that make fucking G.M. food

 

but are buying fridges, TVs, computers, tabels , chairs, beds and so on, from those corporations, so what you get is nothing ( I mean you can live with the food you make but in todays society its, I must say necessery, to have TVs to hear news, to have beds to sleep somewhere.... ). So what we have to do is d.i.y all things in our lives-and thats in most cases imposible. but then we must organize, everyone should produce something else. if you are alone you cant survive in this system.

 

maybe you do not understand the term D.I.Y.

you can make a bed out of a door, and some polyfoam materials. and you dont HAVE to buy these items. garbage picking is a good way to fix things up, you just need the basic knowledge of carpentry. tv's you shouldnt give a fuck about since they are nothing more but a tool for corporations to alter your mind with ads, and sadly, "reality shows". if you want to hear news, word of mouth is still faster. tables can be a cable spool, or milk crates. all things that major corporations like Wilson Farms or any other corner store just throw out.

so if you ask me, getting things for free is more than easy. it sounds to me you are just too fucking lazy.

 

It's o.k. Adam don't let anybody discourage you, just try to learn all you can about Anarchism now when you're young and you have the time to do it, it will inform the rest of your life..In a year or two if you really get in to it, you could be correcting a lot of older people who still don't have a clue as to what Anarchy is really all about.

 

start a punk band, make a demo tape, spread that shit round your school that's a start.